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Making The Move To PicasaWeb (Google) From Flickr (Yahoo!)

2 December 2009 205 views Comments

Being the budding photographer that I am, I’m constantly looking at the best way to organize, share, backup and just basically improve the workflow of my side-photography business.

That said, I can tell you that the two programs I use the most for most of these things are 1) Photoshop and 2) Picasa.

Photoshop is pretty self explanatory, I’ve been using it for over 15 years or so, and I don’t proclaim myself to be a professional by any standard – but I can certainly handle my way around it and know most of the functions quite well. I’m not going to talk about Photoshop today however, this post is going to be about Picasa.

I absolutely LOVE Picasa.

Collections And Then Sub-Folders - Great For Organizing

Collections and then sub-folders, great for organizing!

There are many reasons why I love Picasa, so I’m going to go into a few of them. The first reason that I love Picasa (of many) is the organization capabilities. It allows me to drag and drop and organize groups of pictures into collections and sets – very similar to what Flickr can do online, however this I can do on my desktop (much faster!). To give you an example of how I use it: let’s say I do a wedding photoshoot.. I will import all the pictures into a folder or set, let’s say ‘Wedding Shots – 12/02/2009′. Now these are untouched, and a lot of them are not going to be used. Over a cup of coffee usually the morning after – Liz and I will go through and pick out our favorites and ’star’ them, then once done. We’ll select all our starred photos and put these in a new folder called ‘Wedding Shots – 12/02-2009 – Favorites’. Once we have our favorites, then it’s time to touch them up. Once again we create a new folder called ‘Wedding Shots – 12/02/2009 – Final’ and that’s where we’d store the final touched up shots. The best part is that we’d keep them all in a collection called ‘Wedding Shots  - 12/02/2009′ or something like that so as to have all 3 versions organized in one spot. VERY convenient.

Photoshop Button, Facebook Button, Flickr Buttons.. nice!

Buttons and buttons.. one-clicks for all things simple.

The second reason that I love Picasa is it’s ability to be programmed by other developers, almost like it’s “open source”. Someone out there created a ‘button’ for Picasa which adds a one click ability to launch the photos I choose for editing in Photoshop without ever leaving or launching it seperately. It’s a very small feature, but one which I find infinitely useful.

I’m going to keep going here – the integration and ability to open you favorite email editor and send photos via email (and also resize to your liking very easily) is a great feature even for rookies to use. Ha, just as I typed this I realized that my brother uses this feature all the time.. prooving my point!

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Some of the simple editing features

The editing features of Picasa are ALSO great for rookies and quick touchups for experts too. Cropping and a number of simple edits are very handy.

Facial recognition! I can’t believe the software that’s on the backend of Picasa, but it actually recognizes faces that you have in the pictures and asks you to confirm if the system has it right or not. Very cool feature and something which I’m not sure how much use I’d get out of it, but cool none-the-less.

Auto-import. I can set this to sync up with any folder on my computer, and anytime a picture is put in that folder – it imports it into Picasa.

I think I’ll wrap up by highlighting what I find are the dealbreakers for me with regards to migrating from Flickr to PicasaWeb. First – upload speed… I’m not sure why, but for some reason the upload speeds to Flickr are horribly slow from any computer I try including my work connection. PicasaWeb is much faster to upload to. Second – integration with Picasa; this really can’t be understated as it’s very important. I can do a number of things with the integration, but the two ways I use it mostly is to share folders quickly (upload and share via online interface) and to sync. Sync is something I just started doing, but by ’syncing’ up the photos in a folder on my computer to the online PicasaWeb folder, I always have the latest version available online for me to work on or share. I’m going to find this incredibly useful once I go from the basic free version to more paid space.

The sync button - set it and forget it

The sync button - set it and forget it

Paid space is something that they just reduced which is what brought it to my attention. Here is how it breaks down in USD:

  • 20 GB – $5/yr
  • 80 GB – $20/yr
  • 200 GB – $50/yr
  • 400 GB – $100/yr
  • 1 TB – $256/yr
  • 2 TB – $512/yr
  • 4 TB – $1024/yr
  • 8 TB – $2048/yr
  • 16 TB – $4096/yr

Now with Flickr (which wins in this comparison), I had unlimited space for $25 USD a year. However with all the features I just laid out, I don’t mind paying another $15 a year (200 gigs) to have an online storage solution tightly integrated with my favorite picture organizer. Of course, that 200 gigs is shared with Gmail.. but even still.. what am I at.. 2gigs or something for about 6 years of use of Gmail? I can’t see that being a problem.

I should also mention that I of course have to download all the files from Flickr to import to Picasa, which I’m in the process of doing right now. I’m using a java program called FlickrEdit which is downloading all my images (in their original form) to my USB drive as we speak. What’s great about this program is that it divides the pictures into the sets I had organized on Flickr. My action plan is to then sync those up with PicasaWeb and then organize the rest of my photos as well. The one drawback I have about PicasaWeb is the lack of ‘Collections’.. meaning that I can’t have a Collection called “Pets” and then have a number of Folders within that.. such as “Hunter and Bella”, “Maya”, “Family Pets”, etc.. at least I don’t think I can as of yet.. we’ll see.

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  • simplyton
    Len,

    I reckon you probably have seen this deal somewhere online but I thought i'd drop you a comment just incase.

    On RFD i spotted this thread
    http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/buy-200-gb-e...
    Which in turn leads to this
    http://www.eye.fi/google

    I know you had mentioned about taking up some Google GB's and thought this may be a wee freebie that sweetens the deal.

    Been quiet intrigued by the eye-fi cards (the geo-tagging on the newer models seems like a cool feature) but not sure if I would fork out for one.
  • Hey hey!

    Thanks so much for the deal link.. it is a great deal, that's for sure.. I just opted for the 80 gig upgrade right now and a in the process of uploading as we speak.. (I'm really glad I'm doing it too.. so much easier to have a program to manage and just sync it online)

    I love those eye-fi cards.. just wish they made a version for Compact Flash (both my cameras use it).
  • simplyton
    I've had a play around with Picasa online for storing blog images etc. but never used it to any great extent.
    I enjoy browsing flickr but feel that there hasn't been a dramatic advances in the last few years - The social aspect used be fun but now I feel its over saturated.

    How does the Picasa online system work with allowing guests (family, friends, potential clients etc.) to view your images and can you restrict what they can and cant see?

    Also when you assign images to a collection or a set how does that affect the original file?
    does it include the information in the exif data?

    After trying a few different methods I have been using Window Photo Gallery to tag all my images - Obviously there isn't an online aspect to this but i've found it the simplest way to organise and access all my images. The interface is relatively simple and a benefit of this is that my wife can find images that I have previously tagged

    Look forward to hearing how Picasa works out for you
  • Hey simplyton,

    I couldn't agree more with your two points on flickr.. a) comments used to be fun.. now.. not so much.. b) haven't had any development or new ideas in years!

    The sharing is pretty good I believe.. you have 3 levels.. you have the most secure which is 'sign-in required' which, if you don't have anyone specified won't let anyone else but you see them. You have 'unlisted' which assigns a unique url for your album.. if you don't know the url, you can't see it.. (ie: it's not public), and then you have 'public'. You don't have the capabilities yet to specify per image rights.. but personally that's not a big deal, it may be for others.. not sure. The way I figure it, if you don't want to have an image shared, leave it out of the folder or something..

    Exif data is there, and nothing changes as far as the original file unless you specify to 'save' it (after some edits), but even then, Picasa backs up a copy of the original file just in case I believe.

    Picasa also has a 'good' tagging system, I won't say great.. but I haven't really had to do too much tagging as of yet.. I can say that I really like the face recognition though.. it's a cool added bonus.

    I'm actually curious if it will backup the original cr2 raw files that I upload.. will keep you in the loop.
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